Elin

【300時間プレイしての結論：苦行と作業のループ】 いつか面白くなると信じて300時間プレイしましたが、結局最後まで「楽しい」と思える瞬間がありませんでした。 不満に感じた点： 常に付きまとう生活の困窮： 稼ぎが少ない序盤から容赦なく納税を強制され、資産が溜まりません。 厳しすぎるデスペナルティ： 死ぬとさらに弱体化し、それを取り戻すためにまた長い時間を浪費します。 徹底した足止め仕様： 何をするにも膨大な作業時間がかかり、ゲームとしてのテンポが悪く退屈さを助長しています。 MODについて： コンテンツ自体は非常に豊富で、そこは唯一の評価点です。しかし、これらゲームの不便さをMODで快適にしようとすると、今度はロード時間が劇的に長くなるというジレンマに陥ります。 自由な冒険を期待すると、ただ作業に追われるだけの時間に疲弊することになります。万人にはおすすめできません。

I almost clicked "recommend' for this game, but then as I started to write out the cons, I realized I actually can't recommend it. The game has depth. Lots of items, loot, skills etc. It's a game where you will want to try things and see what happens. But boy oh boy is is grindy. It is literally a grind simulator more than anything else. Click the button to get wood. Put the wood into workbench to turn the wood into planks. Put the planks in a different workbench to combine it with string. Oh wait, you need to make string on a different workbench. Oh, now you've done all the steps, time to craft: Oops, you died because you worked too hard. Do you wish to restart? Okay, let's restart, I'll be sure to rest next time... Oops you died because you are too hungy! Okay, okay, let me rest and eat and then I'll go hunt for food. Now let's craft the food, but don't craft too many foods at once or you will die from overwork. Okay, how your food and hunger is under control, let's go dungeon dive. Pew, pew, pew. Okay, this is going well. Pew pew, out of spells, let's rest to get a couple more charges. Hmm, there's a Samurai in the lvl 2 puppy cave? He's labeled as easy? Okay, let's take him out real quick... "YOU ARE DEAD!" ONE SHOTTED It's at this point, maybe 10 or so hours in you will realize everything in this game is about as grindy as traditional MMO. Mining, crafit, gathering, cooking, farming... every single thing is an untra grind. And you can't really ignore it, because you can't really progress in combat without grinding. I suppose you could just keep running LvL 2 caves over and over, pay for identify over and over, then sell of the loot and search the map for things to equip without crafting, then move to slightly higher level. But the number of runs needed to do that would be a grind in itself. Also I hate the inventory management in this game. Boxes everywhere.. items everywhere. You have two options: Slop it up and throw everyhthing in a bunch of different boxes or spend hours organizing. I feel my OCD kicking in when I have all these items sloshed everywhere, but I can't even bring myself to get started on organizing. Sometimes I sell resources just because I'm too lazy to movethem around to free up slots. Also the unecessary "Tax" bill is just another way to make it even more grindy. Just as you're saving up for whatever, the tax bill arrives with another wake up call that you're gonna have to walk around and pick up more bones and leaves if you're ever gonna get anywhere. Controls leave a lot to be desired. God forbid you have a backup ranged handy on a magic caster. A melee/caster combo will often lead to you meleeing or casting when you meant to do the opposite. Picking and item up or moving it out of your inventory or gifting it to someone rather than eating it is often a juggle of patience and perfect clicking order. You haven't even lived without accidently committing a crime/attacking something you didn't mean to or just doing something due to a misclick in a town. So yeah... Like I WANT to recommend this game. The depth and base formula is great. But if I imagine where I am now VS where I would be if I put another 30 hours into this game, I imagine the next 20 hours would grinding the crafting/gathering system and re-running caves below my level range, then identifying and selling off the items so I can buy residents. And since there are so many surprise one-shot moments, I imagine I would have to rely on the residents to fight for me. So I know it would not feel fulfilling. They should have made it more viable if you wanted to be more adventurer and skip crafting or aren't interested in relying on NPC autoattackers.. And cut down on all the grindy busy word like walking all the way to town to pay the tax bill. So I cant recommned, but I think someone should make a game like this and make it less grindy or make the grind feel more rewarding somehow.

究極の「ロールプレイング」ゲーム。 プレイ中の手触りはオフラインで遊ぶMMORPGという感じで、行動のほぼすべてが自キャラの成長に繋がっているタイプのゲームです。 メインストーリーややり込み用のダンジョンも実装されてはいますが、自分のキャラクターを育てたり、仲間を見つけたり、拠点を自分好みに整備したり……と「好きなことを好きなように」、「この世界で生きる」という部分に楽しみを見出せる方が長続きすると思います。 昨今あらゆるメディアが少しでもリプレイ性のあるゲームに対して「ローグライク」という言葉を濫用しまくるので注意喚起しておきますが、このゲームを主流なローグ系と同じ感覚で遊ぶのは難しいです。(不可能ではなく、慣れれば全然いけますが割と苦行寄りになる) 共通しているのは不思議のダンジョン系でも見られる、「敵と味方が必ず1ターンに1回動く」システムで、マップ攻略部分のゲーム体験は『tales of maj'eyal』などの、伝統的ローグライクとほぼ同じです。 そこに拠点整備や農業、釣りなどのサバイバルクラフト要素を追加して土台を作り、Elonaから続く奇妙で面白く、どこか温かい世界観で味付けをしたものが本作です。 内容を知らずにパーマデスをONにしてプレイすると、おそらく大半のプレイヤーが初見殺しと理不尽の連続で何が何やら分からずに終わります。 相当なゲーム好きでなければ、30分～1時間ほど遊んで二度と起動しないパターンになりかねません。 (この話をこれ以上掘り下げると、ローグとローグライクとローグライトと不思議のダンジョンと伝統的ローグライクの違いについて説教が始まり老害と化すので切り上げておきます) 一方で相性がいいのは、スカイリムを何千時間も遊んだ経験のある方や、Kenshiにドハマりしたことのある方。MMOの人間関係に少し疲れてしまったけれど、別の世界の一員となるあの感覚が恋しい方など。 世界観に没入してロールプレイを楽しんだり、裸一貫の詰んでいる状態を手探りで打開する快感を知っている方には、全力でおすすめできます。 「日銭を稼ぐ為に街中で弾き語りを披露したら、オーディエンスから罵声と共に石を投げつけられて死んだ」。 これが序盤のあるあるとして語られる異常ゲームなので、スクショやプレイ動画の雰囲気で興味を持った方は、ぜひとも復活無限・セーブロード自由のまったり環境で世界を知るところから始めてください。 なんなら便利系MODを積みまくってヌルゲー状態にしても楽しいですからね。 私は160時間ほどバニラ状態でプレイした後、新しいデータでMODを活用しロールプレイに特化したプレイを始めたところ、更に200時間ほど熱中できました。 かつて「ゴミ箱に一度ダンクしてからが本番」と言われた名作ゲームの続編。生きているうちに手に取ることができて本当に幸せです。 私の人生に、2013年の夏がやっと訪れました。

自由度超高的沙盒冒險RPG[Elona]的續作，或是說2.0版，整體系統與故事背景都一樣。畫面升級與UI簡化，照理說應該變得更加容易入坑。但調整過後的生存/生理參數，讓整體遊戲體驗變的不自由又不友善。與原作的開局就自由發展自由探索完全不同。 飢餓與睡眠: 遊戲中的所有行動都會消耗時間與體力，在初期沒有任何技能，信仰，魔法的幫助下，弱小的新角色沒做什麼事就會一直餓肚子與疲勞。加上初期能穩定免費取得的食物只有煮雜草，床只能睡草堆或地板，因此有限的耐力與時間有一半都要收集雜草，剩下的耐力與時間只能盡量去農木柴，種子，然後趕快建好一個小型農場，先滿足基本的自足。 初期拓荒: 不要想著直接去冒險打怪，透過簡單的委託來過上新手冒險者的生活，沒有用MOD或作弊，你連村莊的一個老爺爺都打不過。靠偷竊拓荒也是不可能的，遊戲中有道德值，偷竊與搶劫都會扣道德值，就算沒有目擊者也一樣扣。道德值低到一個程度，就無法與NPC正常互動了。原本做為賣點的高自由度完全消失，不論你開局自訂的種族或職業如何，你都必須先從農夫開始，不然只會變成街邊的乞丐，無法在城鎮裡生存，又沒有足夠的資源遠離城鎮發展。 背包與負重: 原版是沒有所謂的背包容量，身上能帶多少東西，完全由角色的負重能力來決定。負重可以透過角色的基礎體質，負重技能，負重魔法或異次元口袋來增加。換言之任何種族，職業或配點，熟練度達到一定程度，都不會有負重方面的問題。但本作卻硬要搞一個背包容量，能放的東西又很少，想出遠門還要準備足夠的背包或是世界各地建造倉庫來儲存。但這遊戲可以(必須)收集的素材又超級多。 自訂人物: 與原版天數的自訂選項相比，本作被嚴重閹割，破百的外觀自訂義選項被刪到剩個位數。種族，職業，初始技能與天賦的自由搭配也沒有，全部綁定。沒辦法做一個戰士體質的魔法師，擁有戰鬥天賦的音樂家，選戰士就是幫你配好全套的戰士天賦與技能，不明白這樣做的意義在那，遊戲體驗平衡 ? 這他媽是單機遊戲耶，你管職業天賦平衡幹啥。等級與怪物的數值不要亂堆就好。 結論: 原本的高自由度RPG要素被大量刪減，自訂義項目被大量刪減，想作為冒險者的體驗極差。但建築方面卻增加的大量新物件與擺放優化，製作團隊顯然把精力都放在這了，但飢餓與疲勞又變相限制能做的事，想自由建造玩藝術也沒辦法，砍幾棵樹切一疊木板就又要吃飯睡覺了，團隊重點開發的方向與自己設定的參數相悖，不懂團隊到底想要玩家在這體驗什麼，也可能東西不夠多，純粹拖遊玩時間。總之目前只是披著[Elona]續做的皮，遊戲內容完全是高難度的農家樂，這種噁心原作粉絲的東西真的免了。

There is some very creepy/paedophilia content in the game. I don't recommend. It's a shame the game is fun. But the dev has added content that sexualises children. Do not buy.

don't buy this game before life-changing important exams, it is that addictive

如果这个游戏继续更新，扩大知名度和影响力，会成为比肩我的世界与泰拉瑞亚这样的游戏

Awful. Why ? The game is perfect if you love a JRPG that is mixed up with Rimworld, in this kind of aesthetic that is amazing, with unlimited possibilities litterally on anything. Still, Awful. Why then ? Because this amazing buffet of most refined food, is all poisonned. Poisonned by one thing. The horrendeous one thing that will always make me puke. Underage characters, often described as "female", being litterally pets on which you can "milk" "breed" and forces to "lay eggs", yes yes you're reading right. Oh and of course, human underage little girl, all of that yes. Then if you're a man that is breathing heavily reading this, of rage, ready to tell me that I don't know Japanese culture, that I am faulty one because there is just the option and I can ignore it. Yes I can ignore it, except when you finish the first tutorial, you're being offered to chose a pet from 4 choices, Dog , Cat, an other animal and, the 4th being : "little girl". I chose the cat (I'm a cat person), but like... would you see yourself saying "I chose the little girl, i'm a little girl-person" ? Yeah sounds creepy and weird, I agree. So again: "its a choice you can ignore it", I can... except I can't ? I will obviously never interact with this content, but... it taints the whole experience. I can't play and ignore these things, while knowing it's "there". It's like a huge disgusting spider, if I saw it and next minute it's gone, I'm gonna freak out knowing its under a furniture or behind something (As someone who hates spiders). So yeah no, this game is absolutely disgusting. You would think, in times like right now, when some files have been aired-out, maybe people with these kinds of deranged thoughts would hold off and idk, remove this kind of content ?? The game would be A BLAST without this. I can't pourchase a game, and play it, knowing there is this content in it. Even if I can ignore it and not interact with it in game, this is just morally wrong and disgusting. If you can't comprehend why I am that revolted, I don't think you have a sane mindset about this subject. Even if yes I don't interact with it, I don't want to give a penny towards something that, have this kind of content distributed in the open like this, that is satisfying deranged people (often men, of course). It's called boycotting, I am boycotting this video game studio for that. I won't change my opinion, unless the devs apologize, and remove all of this content, and remove their older games where there was stuff like that as well. Why people can't leave minors alone ? Why some deranged people have to always do something terrible with children ? Also: I am not christian or whatever group that would call themselves "family first" or whatever. I just have common sense, and I wish it would be way more common in the gaming community, we need to shame game studio like that, we need to shame gamer that condone these games and buy it. Japanese culture isn't an excuse for such things, and I think people in Japan, victims of such behaviours don't associate their culture with this. Because the "Culture" isn't a viable excuse at all, and I know for a fact this isn't in "Japanese culture". There happens to have a lot of negative sides to every society, Japan isn't exempt of that, and it is insane to stick any negative or horrible things to a "culture" to try to miserably defend what is child-abuse predaotyr behaviour. So no, I won't take the "culture" excuse as well and this is why I am annihilating that excuse right now. Devs should take this very seriously, this is abjecte.

[h1]うみみゃあ！あなたに幸運の日が訪れた！あなたはElinを手に取った。[/h1] [b]どんなゲーム？[/b] とんでもなくデカいスルメを手探りでしゃぶっていくゲーム。 [b]何が面白いの？[/b] 箱庭で好きなように生きていける面白さ。ダンジョンに潜って日銭を稼ぐのも良し。農業で不労所得生活を送るも良し。魔法を極めるも良し。ハーレムを築くのも良し。年上の妹を鞭でしばいて卵を産ませるも良し。噛めば噛むほど味が変わるカオスなスルメをいつまでも味わえる、そんな面白さ。 [b]どんな人なら楽しめる？[/b] ビルドを組むのが好き、建築にこだわりたい、ちまちました作業が好き、スローライフゲーム好き、妹が好き。 数十時間は遊べるデモ版があるからそれで確かめてみて。 [b]アーリーアクセスだけど進み具合は？mod環境は？[/b] かなり積極的に更新されてる。EAリリース直後は毎日アップデートがあったし、1年を経過した今でも毎週更新は途絶えない。正式リリースするまでにどれだけ要素が増えるのか怖くもあり楽しみでもある。modについては作者が導入しやすい環境整備をするほど寛容的。コミュニティもそこそこ賑わっており利便性、要素拡張と様々な種類が用意されている。 [b]…気になる。[/b] [h1]買おう。[/h1]