Vespera

The concept is fun, but as the early access moves on, I think it's becoming more and more evident that the structure of the game itself isn't well-defined. My advice to the developers, if they're willing to listen would be to stop vibe-coding away at the game, sit down and draft out the gameplay loop, the formulae for the various stats, what the game progression should look like. Basically scaffold things out first, and THEN use AI as a TOOL to help you, not to do it all the way. The rapid iterations at first are always telling of an AI fueled game, and I ignored it for the most part because I hadn't gotten far enough along to see the balancing pains at the end. One of the discord mods keeps talking in past tense about things ("This was our first game" for example), so I'm inclined to agree that this will be one of those that never leaves Early Access.

Sadly in its current state I would not recommend this game. Unlike Melvor Idle which has a highly synergistic ecosystem of skills (at least the base game does), Vespera started with a lot of potential by streamlining those systems and focusing entirely the class power fantasy related to combat. However, once getting into the end game the cracks start to show in a significant way that honestly makes all other systems and content that isn't the Tower completely irrelevant and functionally useless for progression. Eventually you will just sign in, collect your offline rewards, and sign out. There's just simply no need to engage with gathering, crafting, the spire, or frontier after a certain point. There used to be frequent, at least once a day (often more), updates. But now the update cycle is significantly less frequent; there is a roadmap, but the devs have been mostly silent on Discord and there has not been any communication about the state of the game. Initially they were much more active, but the community engagement from both players and devs is stagnating. All in all Vespera had the potential to offer an interesting take on this sub-genre within the idle-incremental category, but it just isn't progressing at a pace where I would recommend this title and furthermore wonder if it will simply become another abandoned early access title. Only time will tell; skip for now.

这BD几乎不存在，框架做了那么多，内容和数值不能全让ai填啊

Gave the game its fair chance, but it's obviously AI slop on many levels way beyond the visuals. While AI visuals are the first thing you notice, and while you may believe it's a real dev behind it for a while, it stops being believable while you notice baffling decision after baffling decision, pointless stuff after pointless stuff, and moronic thing after moronic thing. For instance, with the recent talent change, the axe master get talents to "reduce the rage consumption of skills"... Except rage is not a ressource which is spent on skill, it's giving you a buff when you reach 100. It literally does nothing. It also have three critical damage nodes, two on the same row (while it's not supposed to be the case), and the third, which is located before the other two, is three time as strong. The game is riddled of stuff like that. A few additional examples: - You can "study enemies", the bonus are completely worthless, and it takes around a week to fully study a single enemy. There are a triple digit amount of them. - Ressources needed to craft are wildly inconsistant. A main stat T3 gem will require much rarer ressource than another T3 gem. For absolutely no reason. - The combat formulas are completely absurd, where the main stats (strength, dexterity, intelligence, etc) are completely pointless very quickly. It's especially hilarious for the barbarian where the class get a ♥♥♥♥ ton of strength buffs but they are all useless. - The skills feels like you copy pasted the same thing over and over, with a small tweak on damage and cooldown (but it's all useless anyway, as basic attacks is king) - The skill names also can't have been human-created. - The recent talent changes just made clear devs have no clue about their own game. It's about grinding monsters as fast as possible, where you are trying to kill mobs in 2-3s through haste scaling and a few autos. In their talent changes, they made it all about giving conditional buffs to skill with 8-10s CD on these effects. Autos will still shred, but heh, at least that skill which is 7% of your overall dps will have a 30% damage around 40% of the time. Etc etc. It's a game which was entirely vibe coded, and it shows. Feel free to try it out for a while, but keep your expectations accordingly.

AI slop with no real sense of what do in the game after you hit a certain point.

It wasn’t exactly terrible, but honestly, playing it felt more like a chore than something I genuinely enjoyed. What really put me off, though, was the developer’s attitude toward consumers and gamers. I’ve seen way too many snarky comments and defensive responses whenever people criticize their designs or concepts, especially when it comes to questionable fixes that seem to be defended rather than acknowledged as legitimate issues. At some point, it feels like the dev would rather argue with their own community and defend every sloppy design choice than actually listen to the people playing the game. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but constantly being dismissive and snarky toward valid criticism doesn’t exactly inspire me to keep supporting the project. So while the game itself wasn’t necessarily terrible, the combination of the tedious gameplay, questionable design decisions, and the way criticism is handled has completely killed my interest in continuing to support it. At this point, it just feels like AI slop that I have no reason to keep throwing my support behind.

Well I thought [b]Visseron Idle[/b], [b]Eldara[/b], and [b]Fractured Realms[/b] were the best of the best of idle rpg's and then I found [b]Vespera[/b]. Vespera takes all of the great stuff from the three I listed above and some how makes it still unique. You got queues, a town/base in the [b]Magic Academy[/b], and [b]Mercenaries[/b] that are followers you can bring with you. And that is just the things you may notice right away playing. There is so much more. There is [b]offline progression[/b]. The before mentioned [b]Magic Academy[/b] has resource generation among many other things. It also has an [b]Arcane Bestiary[/b] that lets you research the mobs you kill for bonuses. It has it's own [b]Mastery[/b] system with is a full blown skill tree for gathering, crafting, and the economy. The crafting is pretty good. Rare and above items have gem slots that give bonuses like in Diablo. There is a [b]bank[/b] for the character you are playing. There is also a [b]vault[/b] you can store items in to give to your alts. The game has [b]Achievements[/b]. Both for Steam and in game ones that reward gold. There is also an in game wiki of sorts. Which is broken up in two parts. The first one is the [b]Dungeon Journal[/b], which has info on the various dungeons you can venture into. And then there is the [b]Codex[/b]. This thing has a whole page that simulates the [b]combat math[/b] of the game. So you can theorize what kind of damage you can do. It also has what is basically a [b]build planner[/b] for your player character. Did I mention there are [b]4 character classes[/b] and each of them have 3 sub classes? Well it's true. You got a melee focused [b]Barbarian[/b]. A magic user called an [b]Arcanist[/b]. The ranged [b]Warden[/b]. And the [b]NightBlade[/b] finishes it off with a pure dps class. This is all of the stuff I can think of so far. I keep discovering more and more neat things about this game. For the price (and with the current 17% discount it is a steal) this game is amazing. It is head and shoulders above the three games I mentioned in the beginning. Buy it!

Runescape clone - of which there are too many being released. AI-coded - and I have nothing at all against AI coding, but the standard interface makes it not fun to play, especially the left side overlong menu system - needs to be condensed down a lot. I mean both menu system and the actual content itself need a strong UI overhaul. A big expanded view of big graphics and spaced out options is nice to look at for the first minute - but it doesn't work for long-term play.