Until Then

Прекрасная игрушка с глубоким сюжетом, реалистичными диалогами и красивыми пикселями) Я провела тут много часов и могу порекомендовать. Единственное, в конце как будто уже намудрили, но считаю что можно закрыть на это глаза) А, и еще, обязательно после первого прохождения подождите окончания титров)

I want my $6 back HIGHKEY. The first chapter was so strong, but the rest was so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bafflingly bad. A huge ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ waste of time with minor changes and the script writers getting lost in the sauce with their own STORY in the later CHAPTERS. There's better ways to express grief and loss, but the gameplay is such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pain to get through with the two main characters I lost all my endearment towards. Do yourself a favor and finish the first chapter and go to the DLC if you value your time.

I really wanted to enjoy Until Then. The presentation is gorgeous, the soundtrack is fantastic, and the characters are charming. It's clear the developers put much love and effort into it. However, one aspect of the game completely soured the experience for me: the minigames. For a game that's primarily a slow-paced story-driven narrative (to the point some might even say padded), the minigames feel strangely unforgiving. Most of the game encourages you to relax, take your time, and enjoy the dialogue and atmosphere. Then, out of nowhere, you're thrown into reflex-based or timing-heavy sequences that demand near-perfect execution. The shift is jarring. What made it especially frustrating is that many of these minigames leave very little room for error. Missing inputs or making a small mistake can mean repeating large sections of the game, which increasingly destroyed any good will. I guess they were added for variety but for me they just interrupted the story at the moments I was most invested. If someone picks up Until Then for its emotional storytelling and slice-of-life atmosphere, they're probably not expecting several surprisingly demanding gameplay segments that can become roadblocks, especially for completionists like myself. The story itself has its highs and lows, but I would have been much more forgiving if the gameplay had stayed out of its own way. Instead, the minigames became something I dreaded every time one appeared. I can understand why so many people love this game, but the inconsistent gameplay design mixed with incredibly slow pacing made it difficult for me to enjoy. I came for an emotional narrative, not to get stuck retrying minigames that felt completely disconnected from the rest of the experience.

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Useless time wasted

[h1]先说结论，游戏内容瑕不掩瑜，玩完demo感觉能接受的强烈推荐购买。[/h1] DLC听说挺烂的，我还没玩. Until Then的美术和音乐绝对是独立游戏中最上乘的那一批，虽然有的时候雷霆大脸突然出现加上偶尔画的有点崩会让玩家难绷，但大部分时候这些特写都极大的增强了游戏的表现力 顺带一提游戏很多地方的运镜，分镜，构图，都蛮有讲究的，表达手法很多都非常有趣令人惊喜，像是看电影一样，比如说一周目临近结尾，马克决定不再逃避，[spoiler]翻看手机中无数未寄出的邮件草稿[/spoiler]那一段，以及一周目结尾的车灯，马路，烟花的声音，磁带的内容，赛车游戏，都是天才般的想法，无敌的情绪感染力，尽管玩家早就能猜到，但当[spoiler]小茜身上的伤疤暴露在玩家面前，当马克看见小茜操控的赛车故意磕磕撞撞，那种震撼，百感交集，又是另一回事[/spoiler] 关于游戏的剧情，有争议，不过一周目的水平很高基本上是公认，二三周目很多人认为烂完了，我的体验是二三周目还不错，也很有想法。不过我不得不承认，三周目的问题尤为明显，编剧很明显驾驭不住自己展开的过大的世界观，在收尾的时候破罐子破摔了，他还选用了一个极其俗套却不太好用的量子力学设定，导致只要和这些设定相关的剧情很多都令人尴尬，露易斯设定上是天才，她给马克讲理论的时候却表现的像个民科，反正没看出来她哪里天才，而且露易丝的形象不够立体，她的性格看起来，额，很奇怪，尽管你可以说每个世界线她的性格都因为外因内因变化很大，但那差强人意，不够合情合理， [h2]而且关于一周目我得说马克前面的表现非常让人失望和生气，他对小茜不负责任，但小茜尽到了她作为马克好朋友的责任，尽管最后马克试图补救，却为时已晚[/h2] 一周目我认为更多的聚焦于让玩家去了解马克自身的思想，他内心的矛盾，他和妮可的感情线，以及向我们展示小茜所处的困境。第一周目更多的像是铺垫，但我认为一周目确实是最精彩的一个周目，很多桥段在初见确实让你惊喜，二三周目玩到就没那么多感触了 编剧的笔触很细腻并且台本功底超级强，从一周目一直到三周目都强，三周目写科幻内容的时候像儿童读物，但是到了[spoiler] 马克和妮可在一片虚无中互相了解彼此的过往时[/spoiler]，那里的台词又像换了一个人写的一样，成熟，细腻，真挚，很厉害。 一周目中马克和妮可在她家聊天画画那一段让人印象深刻，他们的对话不仅是简单闲聊，其实表现了两个人思想的差异，这些分歧在一周目[spoiler]妮可突然反悔不参与钢琴社面试和二周目结尾马克固执地调试激光试图找办法带小茜回来[/spoiler]等桥段都有体现，而两个人的思想差异是由家庭背景，过往经历等因素共同决定，同时这些因素又巧妙的交织，让两个人注定纠缠，我很喜欢马克和妮可的身份设定，[spoiler]马克母亲的航班失踪，因为大裁决的发生调走了救援力量导致航班搜救被放弃[/spoiler]，所以说尽管马克也是大裁决的受害者，他定然无法与那些真正遭受灾难的人共情，这也是为什么[spoiler]一周目马克和妮可在废墟中争吵[/spoiler]，看似莫名其妙的桥段其实有理可循 例子太多怎么举都举不完，但我想说编剧的水准相当不错，整个剧情架构完整，内容不多不少，前后情节的呼应，伏笔的埋藏和回收都好，第二三周目用闪回片段的表现手法完成了很多剧情上要办的事，这种做法超级好 二周目中悬念内容开始明显增多，在很多剧情上大致与一周目重复，玩起来感觉却完全不一样，小的改动引发大的变化。这周目小茜的境况看起来比一周目好很多，因为里德尔的事业没有那么快腾飞，还有很多空陪她 以及二周目开始复杂，有一些事情在向好发展，有一些在向坏，我们更加了解凯特和妮可的过往，马克与妮可也更加能够相互理解，到了二周目时，游戏的主题已经很明显了，就是 沟通与误解。这个游戏玩的叙事诡计还挺多的，[h2]所以说游戏本质其实更像文艺片，而游戏内的科幻元素更像是加强剧情趣味的调味剂，顶天算是催化剂，不过第三周目似乎有些喧宾夺主了[/h2] 三周目很有意思，但是后半部分讲的东西已经乱七八糟，也没有说明白到底怎么一回事，显然收不住了，不过三周目的紧迫感营造的非常好，三周目的场景很多都是一二周目见过的熟悉的场景，当这种场景随着轮回一遍遍崩坏，当玩家看到原本平凡幸福的周围的人们，境况越来越糟，游戏营造的使命感和对于未知的恐慌靠着一二周目的反衬变得更加强烈 我觉得三周目后面有赶工，其实还可以让游戏流程更长，要不然就应该精简。三周目节奏太乱了 结局其实相当不错了，最后是开放型结局，但是， [h2]我认为制作组设计的这个结局的潜台词是马克与妮可最终仍会在一起，因为这是命中注定，[/h2] 原因是[spoiler]露易丝猜测妮可和马克的量子有纠缠，而这让他们的相遇成为必然，比如说三周目两个人在病房电梯相遇，其实并非巧合。游戏直到最后也没说过量子纠缠被解开了，三周目最后是解决了宇宙间拥挤碰撞的问题，但是和妮可与马克能否在一起毫无关联，两人在大裁决消失后一个在乡下，一个在首都，最终仍然奇迹般的相遇，尽管只是看陌生人那样扫了一眼，但这已经是明示了，有第一次就有第二次第三次，马克约会前还专门说过感觉这次有好事发生，小茜说过他上个约会的对象不了了之，两个优秀的人挑挑拣拣到现在，不正是那些量子影响着他们，让他们为彼此而等待么，所以我觉得他们在一起只是时间问题[/spoiler] 嗯，我还想讲一些东西，游戏用钢琴，用音乐把很多情节串联在了一起，这一点很棒，同时就剧情来看也可以说妮可和马克就是因为钢琴才在一起，起码表面是这样，所以你也能想到这个游戏实际上是很注重音乐的，游戏有79首ost，非常夸张，多而且精，水准高的离谱 以及大家普遍认为游戏塑造最好的人物是小茜。一周目用了大量的笔墨从正面或侧面向玩家展现小茜的内心世界，[spoiler]小茜的父母对她严厉，并且存在家暴，让她身上平添很多伤疤，这一点其实一周目很多地方都有暗示，比如说在衣店挑衣服必须要长袖长裤，小茜表面上外向乐观其实很怕孤独，她的内心温柔，很关心马克，怕马克孤单经常来他家找他，一周目里德尔的事业腾飞很早，因为脑子里想着工作，游园会上玩的心不在焉，马克则是因为似曾相识现象的影响头晕脑胀难以聚精会神，两个人陪小茜玩的时候都很敷衍，感觉小茜好惨，到了后面马克说是要透透气，碰见妮可之后跟妮可玩了一会竟然就腰不酸背不痛了，浑身都有劲了，还把小茜丢下，美美约会去了，小茜看着马克和妮可开心的聊天那里真的气死我了，不过一周目前面其实就看得出来马克是这种吊毛，也不是很意外，只觉得小茜好惨，原来只属于她和马克的东西，马克却正在分享给妮可，比如鬼屋促销活动，所以这里体现的是小茜地位的转换，她被边缘化，被马克和里德尔无意的疏远，妮可和电影分别取代了她在马克和里德尔心中的位置，这里其实就能看出小茜的悲剧，毕竟她一周目立的死亡flag真的多，看着也让人心痛，马克为了给妮可回消息都不理小茜，小茜跟马克玩赛车游戏故意放水，她当时已经打算要跟马克敞开心扉，马克跟他妈个木头一样一点没察觉到小茜的异常和诉求，还站起来开心哦耶我终于赢了，活该他妈第二第三周目后悔死这个傻逼，马克这样对小茜，小茜在马克和瑞恩聊天那里还主动帮忙转移话题避免马克难堪，马克面对母亲去世的事实，想通了要改变自己，抱着小茜哭的时候，小茜还主动安慰他，天啊这个人怎么这么善良，如果我是马克我也有执念一定要救小茜，幸好到了二周目实际上没什么爱茜TV了，看她过的还不错，起码比一周目好不少，让人心里舒服[/spoiler] 总之这个游戏绝对是上品，不管怎么样，就算抛开有争议且有一定缺陷的剧情，单论游戏的视听效果，也质量高的实在太夸张，感染力非常强，我只玩过三个周目各一遍用了22小时，如果你像我一样慢慢玩，76的价格绝对对得起游戏的时长 我现在还有点陷在后劲里，等过两天把游戏全成就拿了，然后再玩玩dlc看看是不是真的那么烂，这种游戏的dlc确实难搞，因为游戏本身足够完整，出额外的容易冗余，如果是出后日谈写恩恩爱爱幸福生活又太普通，或许有点无聊 [h1]哦对了以防有些人不知道，这个游戏内置的音游其实可以用键鼠的D,F,J,K键来对应四个方向键，如果你玩过常规的4key音游，这个键位无疑更让人舒服，这个是我看设置才发现的，不知道为什么游戏没有做相关引导[/h1] [h1]总之希望制作组未来能出更好，令人惊喜的dlc，做更多触动人心的优秀游戏[h1]

Some games entertain you for a weekend, some games make you think, and then there are the rare ones that quietly settle somewhere in your heart long after the credits roll... and this game is one of those experience... I knew coming into this game was going to be a coming of age story by just the looks of it. You hang out with your friends, you got to school, you meet your love interest, yadda yadda yadda.. but as you play the game.. you notice something unsettling but you can't put your finger on it.. What makes the game so special isn't some huge twist or constant action. It's the way it slowly earns your emotional investment. Before you realize it, these characters stop feeling like backgrounds, unimportant characters, and start feeling like someone who is as important as the main character. Their victories make you smile, their struggles hurt, and the quiet moments in between become just as memorable as the big ones. The pixel art is gorgeous, full of expressive animations and subtle details that bring every scene to life. Pair that with an incredible soundtrack, and the atmosphere becomes something truly special. i want more of this, I NEED MORE OF THIS. THE WRITING IS AMAZING! It amazes me how mature the writing is. It tackles loneliness, grief, uncertainty, friendship, family, and the fear of not knowing what comes next without ever feeling preachy or melodramatic. It trusts the player to sit with those emotions instead of spelling everything out. and that ending? damn... I won't say anything...Not because there's some massive spoiler waiting for you, but because this is one of those stories that deserves to be experienced exactly as it was intended. Go in blind. Let the game take you where it wants to take you. Until Then isn't trying to be the loudest game in your library. It just wants to tell a story. Why don't you give the game the time it deserves and dive in to one of my favorite story driven game....