TaleSpire

the amount of times this platform crashes mid session is crazy in the past 3 years i thought they would have improved it but a year later the game crashes a hour into a session cool.

Petite réponse aux critiques, parce que visiblement certains ne comprennent pas: À l'origine, chaque membre devait posséder un exemplaire de Tailspire, ce qui coûtait entres 40-50E par joueur. Certains visiblement n'ont pas connus, Moi oui...Sauf que désormais, avec l'ajout de places, seul le maître de jeu doit l'acheter, et il peut ensuite ajouter des places pour 10Euros supplémentaires, et faut rajouter encore avec Heroforge. Sur le papier, c'est parfait. Mais il a fallut pour cela les retours négatifs, afin qu'ils ecoutent les joueurs, qui je le rappelle: sont Majoritaire en JDR, les mjs étant bien plus rares. Je rappelle que quand l'option c'est soit payer les places pour vos joueurs, soit que le joueur déboursent pour sa place...c'est un problème parce que cela veux dire qu'il ne fait pas le taff de base d'un VTT. Et c'est un de mes problème majeur avec Tale Spire. J'ai payé 40E pour 4 places, sachant que j'avais déjà payés pour faire ce taff a la base, ce qui veux dire que d'origine, c'était juste un créateur de maps, sauf que j'ai baucoups mieux pour cela. Maintenant, un peu de réalisme: comme dit le JDR c'est un passe-temps couteux, L'argent reste un problème pour tout le monde, Si le maître de jeu reçoit un exemplaire et qu'il ne peut se permettre cette dépense, ca veux dire devoir se cotiser pour couvrir le prix des places, ce qui, je peux le confirmer, refroidit ENORMEMENT de joueurs. En tant que MJ, on paye déjà une sacré fortune en bouquins, donc en termes de VTT, si il fait pas le taff, alors c'est Carton Rouge. Avant l'arrivée des sièges, je partageais mon écran sur Discord avec ceux qui ne l'avaient pas. C'est pas vraiment fun de juste regarder un Ecran et de ne pas pouvoir bouger ses jetons ou lancer les dés, laissant donc le mj a devoir tout faire. Resultat: des joueurs beaucoups plus dissipés, voire moins interressés par le jeu. Et a cela se rajoute un autre gros problème: Les déconnexions pour certains joueurs qui a ont une connexion internet/un ordinateur ancien ou peu performants. Si vos joueurs ne sont pas des joueurs confirmés (c'est-à-dire qu'ils n'ont pas le matériel nécessaire pour faire tourner des jeux vidéo récents), alors Talespire n'est pas fait pour eux. Autant je peux comprendre qu'un jeu de rôle ne soit pas pour tous, mais un VTT à techniquement vocation d'être fonctionnel pour tous. De ce fait, le fait de devoir payer Talespire, puis en sus, les places, puis Heroforge, et ensuite de voir tout cela, le rend juste, pour moi, totalement imbuvable, ce qui fait que j'ai cessés de le proposer et de l'utiliser, même pour la création de Map, lui préférant d'autres programmes, qui, eux, via la possibilité de tester gratuitement, me permettait de faire jouer a l'achat du programme, mes tables, creer mes maps, creer mes fiches, mes pnjs, ect. Sans que j'ai a débourser des suppléments cachés derrière, ni moi ou mes joueurs. Ensuite, pour comparer. Foundry coûte 40-50 Euros, mais c'est un achat unique definitif. Il propose des modules gratuits et régulièrement mis à jour pour de nombreux systèmes. Un mode d'essai gratuit vous permet de vous rendre compte de la difficulté de création et d'utilisation. Let's Rôle ou son ancêtre Roll20, qui est certes ancien et limité en mode gratuit, mais au moins ils sont gratuit pour tous les participants, on peut jouer, et mieux, on peut même creer ses fiches si on sait s'y prendre. Des options payantes permettent d'accéder à des fonctionnalités supplémentaires, mais il n'y a aucun frais d'inscription pour démarrer une partie et jouer. Et cela ne change absolument rien a ma critique: Tale spire est un VTT, si je suis obligés de payer en sus pour jouer avec mes tables, alors il ne remplit aucunement sa fonction de base: il est parfait pour des jeux avec des combats tactiques, il est cependant très limité pour le reste, notement les fichers systèmes ou le brouillard de guerre, Et sachant qu'il faut aussi débourser pour Heroforge, encore heureux que Tales Tavern fait un merveilleux travail de librairie. mais quand un produit, me donne l'impression d'être une vache a lait et que depuis maintenant 5 ans et plus, c'est toujours en Early Acces, désolé mais je considère qu'il y a un problème. Tant mieux pour ceux qui s'y retrouve, mais personnellement, y a mieux ailleurs et bien plus complet, surtout pour ce que cela propose, et sans que j'ai à payer des suppléments cachés.

Pretty hard to list a negative review after how much time and money I've spent in this, but honestly I think its got a good way to go before its where it needs to be. It absolutely has good bones, but I think the devs know that TaleSpire is king of its kind at the moment, certainly the best 3D VTT. Due to this however, there comes a few major issues that fuel my review today. Firstly, updates are infrequent and minuscule, you will be waiting weeks or months at a time and then they will announce an update that will add the ability to create an AOE Marker and add it to the initiative order (The AOE marker tool already existed, its just the initiative order addition that is added). It feels like there's a lot lined up with their road map, but not a lot actually getting added, which I concede is a terrible opinion to hold against an early access game, however it is still my opinion of its current state. Secondly, building maps and adding the details that you want is tremendously time consuming, you can slap together a building or a roofless dungeon fairly quickly if you don't care about finer details or making things look natural, however if you are someone with a 9-5 and have other hobbies / people / things you like to partake in in life, TaleSpire will demand a large portion of that time if you aim for perfection. I think some extra mechanics to assist with building and pathing would be helpful, there's a lot of cool assets to work with, but making something of them all is super tedious. Finally, myself and most of my group get major performance issues playing this. Even after plenty of troubleshooting, it always seems to be TaleSpire that causes it. One of my players just has audio drivers die the moment TaleSpire boots, completely killing any audio, another player has frequent crashes that are only caused when using very specific mini's, can use 100 of the "right" ones but the second we place the "wrong" one down, crash. And I personally experience overheat issues, almost the moment I boot TaleSpire up my CPU hits 80 degrees Celsius. With the negativity aside though, if you have the time to give it, the product it gives back is unmatched. I even intend on returning to TaleSpire in the future, maybe in a 1.0 release, maybe when there's been a good few more things on their road-map that have been marked as shipped, but certainly when there is more. It's good, but its not incredible, but it certainly can be.

A noble idea, a poor execution. I have three major problems that I would like to see addressed before I can honestly recommend this game. 1) This is a slog to set up a campaign. If you are actually trying to make the map look interesting, and not trying to simply make a box for a building (which, if you're using this system, you likely want it to look nice) takes forever to set up all the little details. You may think, "Hey, this is a 3D system, of course it's gonna take a while to build something!" when in reality, the options are limited, meaning you need to get creative on putting things together to make something that looks nice, and you have to dig through unorganized folders with no way to search for a specific type of tile, so you're forced to dig through the folders and remember which tiles you like. Furthermore, it's way too easy to accidentally upscale everything to an absurd degree, making it hard to make a reasonably sized map instead of forcing your players to move dozens of spaces just to get to the point you want them to be. 2) No character creator. Now, you might say, "But you can use Hero Forge!" Yes, I know, but that only works if you want to make a player character. If you're trying to set up easily distinguishable NPCs, you're gonna be paying tons to set up a all the necessary characters. It's great for players, bad for DMs. There is a way for you to mod in 2D flat tokens, but those are hard to make if you don't have much knowledge on how to work with the programs needed and look through where you need to go to place the files. It's far too much work for something that really needs to be worked on for the game. I am aware of the fact the devs plan on adding in a character builder at some point, as that is one of the milestone rewards they promised, and the Hero Forge thing is just a bit of a temporary fix for things, but this makes it hard for DMs who are on a budget to set up a campaign. Speaking of cost of entry... 3) The "guest edition" isn't free. If you want to invite friends to check out the game, and they aren't interested in DMing, or just want to check out and play in your game, then they'll need to fork over $10 to join your game. And that's all the seats do, all they do is allow you to join in a game, and after that, they can't do much else. It's frustrating to see that and think, "Cool, I can invite my friends to the game!" and then be blocked by a $10/person fee. Don't get me wrong, I understand there are only a few devs, and they really want to make something unique and exclusive to enhance the playing experience of players who are playing remotely, to try and get the tabletop in person feel recreated online, but the problem with how this is set up now is it's very ridged. If you have any idea of how you want to set up the campaign, and it clashes with how the game is set up, tough luck, you'll have to change it to comply with how this system runs. I believe if this system is simplified and made to be more accessible, it could really pick up more traction, but as it is, I don't see myself wanting to return to this after I finish my campaign unless the devs fix the ridged structure of the game.

Do not buy it if you don't want to shell out 50 USD for four "seats" which are mandatory for the "Guest Pass". The worst part is that the main page doesn't mention the MANDATORY 15$ MINIMUM for VTT compatibility anywhere, the map maker effectively costs 10$ and being able to use the VTT with friends is 15$ per person or 50$ for a bundle of 4, the only positive is that "seats" are universal, so if you have multiple games and bought multiple seats, you basically "add your seats to the pot" so players without any in their possession will have one.

It is not a quick and easy tool and does not do what I need it to do. I recomend adding Pre-built maps & More note taking tools. if they are allready in it, they are not in a userfriendly location.

After 2k hours, I feel like I owe this game a review. I'll try to keep it short. Pros: -3D Map, excellent for vertical encounters and impressive structures. Good for player retention too, especially for visual players. -Has all the basic tools to run encounters without overcomplicating things. -Good performance. Runs well on potatoes, unless you're making giga maps. -Easy learning curve. Controls are simple, you only need a few hours of map making to get the hang of it. The tutorial is less than amazing but you're probably a GM/DM so you likely have the brainpower to handle it. -Great copy/paste tools. This saves me a lot of time and allows you to easily port maps between campaigns. -Devs are pretty cool, they regularly post updates. -Solid ambient sounds and songs library. -Day/night effects and light positioning look great and add a lot to the player experience. -Can support a fairly large number of models at the same time. Mids: -No native character model editor but theres mods and third party editor support (HeroForge and TitanCraft). Using HF or TC can be quite expensive. -No native character sheet system, but third party symbiotes fill that niche moderately well. Not amazing, would be better if it was native, but it works. -The player-side limited view distance is weirdly low but its nice that theres an option for limiting view distance. Would be better if there was a value or slider GM-side to change this. -Building assets range from very high quality, fits nicely together, and looks great, to the opposite of all those things. The more recent assets the devs have added are really good but most of their older work lacks in at least one of those categories. Cons: -Time consuming map creation. Not great for throwing together quick encounters unless you use other people's slabs or you make a bunch of your own beforehand. -Purchase requirements. This wasn't an issue with any of my groups but I know some GMs might have a hard time convincing their players to drop $25 on a new TTS. -Theres only a small selection of character models, outside of third party options. -You can't layer ambient sounds. Not the worst thing but that would be a neat feature. In short; I like this system, it works for what I use it for, and I would recommend it to any GM running a TT game so long as their players can afford the price tag. You can always just stream it but the devs are adding more player-side features so that might take away from the experience. 9/10, if the devs keep up the work this game could become an industry standard in Tabletop Simulators.

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