
The "Debating Sim" returns! Engage famous philosophers of all stripes, challenge their ideas, and change the world— or just tell everyone they smell terrible. NONSENSE!
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Pro Philosopher 2: Governments & Grievances is the long-awaited follow up to the Flash hit Socrates Jones: Pro Philosopher, once again challenging the player in a series of interactive debates with brilliant thinkers from across history. Master logical moves to untangle argument puzzles, find internal contradictions, and cause your opponents to freak out!
Shifting the focus from moral philosophy to political philosophy, Pro Philosopher 2 presents a new story and new philosophers, with plenty of overblown comedy and drama.

Ariadne Jones has no time for distractions: not the party downstairs or the debates on TV, and definitely not the weird philosophical afterlife she gets pulled into every time she sleeps. But when her estranged mother arrives in that very realm, she's forced to tackle all the questions she's been avoiding. Questions like: what is the ideal government? Oh, and IS MY MOM DEAD?!
Pro Philosopher 2 frames its gameplay with a personal story, delivering a juicy mix of political machinations and family drama— brought to life by a cast of over a dozen colorful characters. Whether you are dealing with your party hardy college roommate or Anime Karl Marx, each cast member has their own motivations, expressive art and animations, and more than a few quirks.
You don't have to have played the first game to enjoy Pro Philosopher 2... but hey, the first game is free. As is the first chapter in our demo!

Pro Philosopher 2 challenges you to find weaknesses in a wide variety of increasingly complex arguments, but you will not be unprepared! Use specialized questioning tools, based on real reasoning techniques, to cut through ideas with precision:
Press for Clarification : What does that actually mean? Make vagaries less vague and complicated ideas more accessible.
Ask for Backing : That's a nice assertion you have there, Senator, what's your source? Reveal unstated assumptions behind seemingly simple statements.
Request Connections : How does this connect to everything else you are saying? Bridge logical gaps and banish distracting tangents!
Challenge! Turn your opponent's own ideas back on them by hitting them with their own core premises! Or, you know, just tell them that they smell bad. Who knows. Maybe it will work out for you?
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如果这个游戏属于九年义务教育必修课的话,我不敢想互联网环境会多么好。 [spoiler]或许这个游戏就是做出来印证最终boss的想法的[/spoiler]
Reminded me of my political philosophy class last semester. Content was very surface level and took simplified views of the speakers presented but you kind of have to adjust your expectations when you download the funny haha ace attorney philosophy game. It's not meant to be serious!! Game is also funny and well-written but there were a couple 2018 millennial humor moments for sure
I really enjoyed the first Pro Philosopher, but I'll admit, the idea of debating Government philosophy seemed daunting. I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that the player-character was similarly wary of the situation. This also helped break the ideas down very neatly and helped me understand them better. For me, one of the most interesting things is how it relates to the real world. There's some lines that you definitely get a sense of which way the developers lean politically, but overall the game does see and acknowledge multiple perspectives. It acknowledges a lot of the fears and critiques of current government systems (primarily American), but it ends with an overall message of how there's potential for things to be better. I also like that it explained a little more about the Jones family and why Ariadne is so passionate about philosophy. In my review of the first game, I said the game was basically Ace Attorney but philosophy instead of law, and I think part of my reasoning is that Socrates and Ariadne felt like generic inserts created because they couldn't use Phoenix and Trucy, Ryunosuke and Susato, or any other "debater and weird-girl sidekick" combo from AA. Fleshing out the family, explaining the situation with mom, and letting Ari take the lead really helped set this game apart from just being an Ace Attorney clone. (That being said, I wouldn't oppose a crossover if this game got that big.) Trying not to get into spoilers, but there is a twist right after the "Tutorial Debate" that makes the game seem a lot more sci-fi than the previous, and it definitely felt like a sharp turn that was kinda jarring. I wasn't sure where it was going, and admittedly you have to just not overthink some of the world-building implications, but I think it ultimately worked to create a solid reason for the characters to end up in this situation. On a technical level, the art style is much cleaner and the animations much smoother. There's still some times that I want to scream at the game that my point is valid and it is just that the way I'm thinking isn't the way the game is thinking (one in particular, I wanted to make my point too early). Because of this, I appreciated that there were also some points where it felt like the game was recognizing I made a valid point, but it wasn't the point that they were looking for or it wasn't a point that worked for the overall plot, so I was nudged toward trying a similar argument on the same line or trying that argument on a different line. It felt like a good reward for thinking things through, even if it wasn't the "right" answer. Overall, great game if you like debating or philosophy ... or if you just want to see Karl Marx say "Nerf the Rich"
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TLDR: If you want an a visual novel that makes you ponder about the injustices of the world and it's solutions, buy this game. It will remain in your mind long after you finish it. This game is masterpiece, even better than the first one. I could talk about why or how it plays, or you could go and play the first one which is free and last like 2 hours, then read the rest of this comment. Ok, you played the first one and found out it's a "ace attourney" game about philosopherswhich is actually fun, what is new on this one? Everything is improved, you clarifications and backings bring more statements, you can challenge with difeferent ideas and in general they will respond to you in consequence, even if that is not the "perfect" challenge. Also, the writing is better, very funny with some gaming references. Music is still good, and art is a mixed bag, but other than the main character and some consistencies between poses, almost everything else i far better. Now, we don' play these kind o games to criticize what we usually do in other, what about the ideas? Oh boy, this game should be played by everyone. To try to find the perfect goverment system... it's a challenge, a challenge no one was ever to solve. This game might not solve it either, but it does give you tools, if not to design it, to ponder about so many problems. Also, I do not want to spoil, but the philosophers that appears have very well done characterizations, and the ideas they debate are always fresh, een at modernity. Also, loved the ending. I don't know what to say, I actually have been waiting for this game to be released since I played it in kongregate more than a decade ago. I never though it would be this good. I recommend this to anyone, if not becaue they like these kind of games, to make them a better member of society.
great exploration of philosophy in an ace attorney style
A uniquely education game played through the lens of an interesting philosophical discourse. But then, I am a philosophy graduate so I am biased in my evaluation...
Buen juego, mejor que el primero.
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