War Thunder

对于这款游戏，我是不推荐任何玩家入坑的。入坑这个游戏只能说是浪费人生 游戏的优点 1.内容丰富，陆海空三军载具数量全世界独一份，你可以在这里体验到各国历史和现役车辆。同时各种机制模拟现实武器的原理也很独特 2.优化好，哪怕是大部分电脑想赢画质就能得到电竞体验 缺点 1.制作组，特别是BVVD，简直没药救了。全公司只有美术和敲代码的在干活，而且现在越来越敷衍。更新的都是一些换皮垃圾 2.收益非常低，如果你不急头白脸的给他们充几百的RMB，你这辈子都别想玩到顶级载具和飞机，更新的载具永远和你没有关系 3.平衡垃圾，不同国家总是会有某些方面特别变态，在这里美系赢在那里俄系赢，总之没有什么制衡的，这一局你爽了下一局就等着吃屎吧，一点还手之力都没有 4.歧视，你蜗牛，对中系的歧视已经演都不演了这一点都不用说了。最神的是，你蜗牛不但歧视老中，连自己国家俄也歧视，不断地加强俄系不过就是让你对现实俄产生反感，在公司内部也要压榨来自俄员工，这样的制作组你还指望他做什么游戏呢？ 最后 我想提醒你，对于蜗牛来讲，你的游戏体验永远不重要，只要这个游戏还能让你爆米他们就会继续让游戏半死不活，等到捞够了直接跑路，你的付出心血时间就和垃圾一样，如果你铁了心要玩你就多充钱，大把大把的充，充到你发现这个游戏毫无意义为止

The new User Agreement is, in my opinion, completely unreasonable. Some of the clauses I am particularly concerned about include, but are not limited to: Restricting players from organizing themselves to challenge Gaijin through legal action, public criticism, or other forms of collective pressure; Restricting players from publicly sharing calls or communications between themselves and Gaijin; Restricting players from expressing dissatisfaction with Gaijin or its moderators in community spaces; Allowing Gaijin to suspend or ban accounts based on the above reasons, or whenever it determines that a player has violated its rules; Allowing Gaijin to obtain personal information from third parties for purposes such as “identity verification.” The last point is especially difficult for me to accept. I do not believe an ordinary video game company needs this level of identity verification simply to allow someone to play its game. At the same time, if the game itself has serious problems, why should players’ ability to criticize, discuss, or express dissatisfaction with those problems be restricted? This is even harder to justify considering that War Thunder already has a large number of long-standing issues that remain unresolved. In Air Battles, only a small number of aircraft are truly competitive or enjoyable at many battle ratings. The game may have a huge number of vehicles on paper, but in actual matchmaking, the number of genuinely viable choices is often very limited. Adding more vehicles has not solved the underlying balance problems. In Ground Battles, the gameplay increasingly feels like a race to get kills as quickly as possible, earn enough spawn points, and then get into an aircraft to bomb ground targets. Ground combat is constantly interrupted by air power, to the point where Ground RB can sometimes feel less like a tank mode and more like a way to earn enough points to spawn a plane. Naval Battles suffer even more from differences in matchmaking and vehicle performance. When you are placed in an unfavorable match, lower-BR ships can have serious difficulty damaging higher-BR opponents at all. Your experience can depend heavily on whether matchmaking puts you at the top or bottom of the BR range. On top of that, the game’s economy continues to push players toward maximizing efficiency through paid content. Research and Silver Lion income are low enough that progressing through tech trees without a premium account or premium vehicles can become painfully slow. Players are faced with increasingly long research grinds while constantly being encouraged to buy premium time, premium vehicles, and other paid content simply to make progression more tolerable. At this point, it no longer feels like the game is merely encouraging players to spend money. It feels more like the game is creating frustration first, and then selling players the solution to that frustration. That is my overall impression of War Thunder in its current state: The balance problems remain unresolved, the gameplay issues are becoming more obvious, the economy continues to put pressure on players, and the new User Agreement appears to further strengthen Gaijin’s control over player accounts, community criticism, and personal information. In its current state, I see very little evidence that the game is moving in a better direction. For that reason, I would not recommend that new players start playing War Thunder right now, and I would not recommend spending significant amounts of money on the game either. 新的用户协议在我看来已经非常逆天了。按照目前协议中的相关条款，我比较在意的内容包括但不限于： 限制玩家通过法律或舆论等方式组织起来针对 Gaijin； 限制玩家公开自己与 Gaijin 之间的通话或沟通内容； 限制玩家在社区中发表对 Gaijin 或管理人员的不满； Gaijin 可以基于上述理由，或者其认为玩家存在违规行为的情况下，对账号采取封禁措施； Gaijin 可以以“确认身份”等理由，从第三方获取与玩家有关的个人信息。 其中我最不能理解的就是最后一点。 我不认为一个普通的游戏公司需要对玩家进行如此程度的身份确认，才能允许玩家正常游玩。与此同时，如果游戏本身存在问题，玩家为什么连批评、讨论和表达不满的空间都要受到限制？ 更何况，目前《战争雷霆》本身就存在大量长期没有得到解决的问题。 空战方面，很多权重下真正有竞争力、体验正常的飞机就那么几架。表面上载具很多，但真正进入匹配以后，可选择的强势飞机非常有限，平衡性并没有因为载具数量增加而改善。 陆战方面，现在越来越像是在比谁能更快拿到击杀、攒出点数，然后上飞机/直升机进行对地攻击。地面载具之间的对抗经常会被空中力量打断，很多时候给人一种“陆战只是用来攒飞机点数”的感觉。 海战方面，不同权重和不同等级舰船之间的性能差距更加明显。一旦分房不利，经常会出现低权重舰船面对高权重舰船时难以有效造成伤害的情况，游戏体验高度依赖分房。 除此之外，整个游戏的经济系统也一直在逼迫玩家追求更高效率。 研发和银狮收益被压得很低，不购买高级账号或者金币载具的情况下，开线速度非常慢。结果就是玩家一方面要面对越来越长的研发线，另一方面又不断被高级账号、金币载具和各种付费内容诱导提高效率。 这种设计给我的感觉已经不是单纯地鼓励消费，而是在先制造痛苦，再出售解决痛苦的方法。 所以现在的《战争雷霆》给我的整体感受就是： 平衡问题没有得到解决，玩法问题越来越明显，经济系统不断增加玩家压力，而新的用户协议又进一步强化了 Gaijin 对玩家账号、社区言论和个人信息的控制。 至少以目前的状态来看，我已经很难看到这个游戏明显好转的迹象。 因此，我不会推荐新人现在入坑，也不建议继续投入大量金钱充值。

I got a nuke while obscenely high off a 100mg weed soda. I will continue to play but if you're thinking of starting, don't. It's free to play at the cost of your soul

基本都是风味载具，本来是冲着想要的载具去研发的，研发出来之后发现也就那样，跟之前的载具也没啥太大区别。感觉这游戏就是拿你想要的载具钓你，砍你收益硬拖时长，开出来自己想要的载具之后也没想象中那么好玩，回想起来就只剩下吃了一坨大的这种感受……

israel

Pay to win

the latest changes to the EULA has shown gaijin doesn't really care how good their product is, they just want a product that will print them money the history has shown a lot of changes are possible only when people organise (which also applies to war thunder) and the latest changes make it much harder for players to organise

Gaijin just doesn't care. As long as they are getting your time/money, they literally do not care what product they put out. I'm convinced the entire purpose of this game is to serve as a recruiting tool for the Russian armed forces. They certainly can't point to any kind of real accomplishment to attract new recruits unless you want to be 1 of 35k/month killed in Ukraine, so they trick kids with ridiculous "realistic" vehicles. Gaijin is easily the worst, most parasitic game developer in existence. They just have no competition and don't care if they make swathes of their lineups unusable because they want to puff up Russian ego.